Does an LTS version of Ubuntu mean that it's a particularly good version? Is that why they repeatedly offer long term support for some?

Yes, sorry, my second post started as a response to reed026 and I only quickly read yours before responding to both of you. I know Debian "straight" is the best choice in terms of stability. I only mentioned the testing version because I know that the software in Debian stable is usually quite "old", and in my case it's very convenient for me to have the most recent versions of the P2P programs I use quite a lot and I had just checked and saw that Debian testing had recent enough versions.


Anyway... Debian testing's recently created image would not install (like the last time I tried), Debian stable installs but won't display graphics with my Nvidia card on my widescreen monitor, and the two methods I tried to solve this last problem didn't work...

As I usually read, Debian seems to be a good choice when it comes to servers but not the best one for the regular home user. That's why I mentioned Debian-derived distros, that I know are usually based on Debian testing (that, like I said, has more recent software) to which new tools are usually added to make the distros more user-friendly, which ends up making this same distros unofficial Debian "Home Editions".

Like I read in an early review of Ubuntu, I guess what I'm looking for is a Debian polished for end-users. And I can see there are several.

Seems like I have quite some testing to do...

For netbooks, I also have one and have been using an-Ubuntu based distro called "easy peasy" on that one. It was the only one that would come already with, and automatically install, the wifi drivers and make everything work in a decent manner the first time I installed GNU/Linux in it. Ubuntu Netbook Remix seems awful...

Yes, I'm starting with that one.
I've just had some fun learning about downloading netinstall images with "jigdo" and will install the testing version first thing in the morning.
I have the impression that Debian usually lacks some of the nice tools that most other, more end-user oriented, distros have, that simplify the experience. Since Debian's main concern seems to be universal compatibility and stability.
I guess I'll have to use the terminal more, but just remembered that Debian already has some basic graphical tools that are enough for my level of GNU/Linux knowledge.
I've always loved the Debian philosophy and organizational structure. So Debian at the moment stands as a very good candidate for alternative.
Thanks for your advice.

I subscribe to much of what is said in the article.
I too am very disappointed with the new release of "Buguntu" (either the worse, or one of the worse) and have been seriously considering switching to another distro.
I've stuck with Ubuntu so far because I find the merging of the main user and the root user to be much more practical. But if I have to do without that convenience for a less buggy experience, than so be it, I guess.
I don't like distros that use .rpm packages because I don't like to see or digitalize any corporation's initials every time I deal with packages, so I would like to stick with a Debian-derived distro.
I've tested all the main distros some years ago, twice, only to come back to Ubuntu everytime, mainly because it was the only one that would automatically correctly configure my sound and graphics.
I happen to have quite some free time at the moment to make some tests again. But can anyone here who has been testing different distros recommend me already a good, and above-all stable, Debian-derived one?

Those are not police officers. They're private security guards. The word on the back of one of the thugs is "PROTECTAS". The Portuguese police uses the word "POLICIA".


The report is from a Portuguese Bilderberg-owned TV news channel called "SIC NOTÍCIAS".


I've translated what is said in it:


(00s) "...of incentive to the referee. He just wanted to say that his family supported José Fonseca, the Portuguese referee of the match. That's when security went inside the field. Away from the natural habitat, the four man dressed in black, started to beat the one dressed in white."

(23s) "Suddenly, blue, red, green ones joined the white and things turned black..."

(49s) "For ten minutes, the security guards received the other side of the coin. The good sense of some adepts and the quick intervention of the players saved itself, to try to cool down the problem."

(1m09s) "This security guard stayed unconscious for some minutes. Shortly after, he got out on his own foot, but still with help. The Benfica players, also with lost temper, and Giovanni Trapattoni, hearing the explanations from the many adepts that invaded the field... At the end, there were no detentions, there was yes the party of the Benfica adepts and the passage of the security guards through the hospital."

Yes, the so-called "copyleft" principle is already being used in several creative works, also to my most enthusiastic agreement.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyleft

(Or, third version, since I want to be clear...)

As the GNU/Linux experience has shown, socialist and free market modes of production and distribution are not necessarily incompatible, and can coexist, in mutually beneficiary terms, within the same society or economy.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed_economy


Sorry about that...

That's true. Toothpaste is not necessary.

http://www.hesperian.org/assets/wtnd/WTND_Chapter_17_pdf.php

However, I think it's a good idea to use it when we can, for the same reason we use soap to wash our hands, and I guess to soften the rubbing, and therefore, prevent damage to the gums.

If you ever come to Portugal, look for an orange pack. It's the only one I know of that is not fluoridated and it's relatively easy to find.

Or better saying, "as the GNU/Linux experience has shown, socialist and free market modes of production and distribution are not incompatible, and can be combined into mutually beneficiary mixtures."

Chemicalrain said it well. I don't think any "Libertarian" can speak for all in this case.


GNU/Linux, as it was also very well said in a documentary, is to a great extent, one example of "Socialism in action". More specifically, Communism in action - people collaboratively working for the "common good", without worrying about receiving an adequate and differentiated reward in return, and everyone taking whatever they want from what is produced.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gift_economy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchist_communism#Example_societies_through_history

For that reason, some people who are fiercely in favor of a free market economy might dislike it in terms of principle. But like it is said in the slashdot article, GNU/Linux, although being to a great extent an example of one type of Socialism in action, is not incompatible with a free market economy, and can be, and is, used by some people to sell their services and make a profit.

As the GNU/Linux experience has shown, socialist and free market modes of production and distribution are not mutually exclusive, and can be combined into mutually beneficiary mixtures.

I'm assuming this is what Femacamper is talking about:

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=116955.0

It's not just the CPU itself, but a new integrated set comprised of CPU, motherboard and network equipment.

I've only tried a few Portuguese distributions, but yes, I can confirm that the ones I've tried were very good.

About Linux Mint, you might be right. I had read about it on this forum before and I must not have checked it well, since I was not even aware it was based on Ubuntu. From what I've seen better, the GNOME version seems to me to be making the same "mistake" (in my opinion) as KDE by adding extra functionalities that end up complicating instead of simplifying the OS. (As for the other desktop environments, I can't comment, since I don't use them and, therefore, can't make a comparison.) But I'll have to try it for myself before saying anything more. Maybe for the newcomer it ends up being more simple, I don't know. But you might be right. Thanks for the correction.

bmanmcfly:

The most user-friendly distro out there is www.ubuntu.com.

I learned my GNU/Linux basics years ago from a Debian manual, but I'm sure there are better introductions out there by now. The Ubuntu site has some documentation, including an introduction to people who are migrating from Windows. Maybe that's a good start.

The configuration operations are becoming ever more automatic, graphical and simple to do. And for the ones that still have to be made from the terminal there are usually good tutorials available in the help forums.

My first GNU/Linux experience was quite awful also , but it was back when it was starting to evolve. Everything has progressed quite a bit since then and I think now is a good time for anyone with a bit of patience to start seriously considering this alternative.

I haven't use the OpenOffice Word Processor much, but it has been enough for my needs. And it is surely much better than the Microsoft Word I used back in high-school for scientific reports and such. Yes, it was by now quite a long time ago, but if I managed to do what I had to back then with MS Word, I guess I would also be able to with today's OO Word Processor. Maybe it is not as advanced as MS Word, but hey, it surely has a much better quality-price ratio and I guess it will always be able to follow Microsoft's steps with some lag. Not a problem for me. I'm not in a hurry for the latest functionalities.

If it's a software-related problem, the crashing part might be because of a bad package choice or combination made by your specific distro. Try others.

Are you sure you have your BIOS configured to make the computer boot from the CD?

Anyway, to complete the thread, here go some screenshots. From what I see, the "Multimedia" and "Network" menus are the customized part of the distro.

Yes, in the end they won't mean anything, or will possibly be extinct, since the national parliaments functions are increasingly becoming to merely incorporate the EU directives into their national laws.

But the fact that Bilderberg-controlled political parties remain in power makes sure we are heading in that direction.

All with the approval of the most enlightened European citizens.

Coincidently, there were also legislative elections in Portugal today. And the result couldn't be better for the NWO.

This is what the most wise Portuguese people has voted for:





The PS (Socialist Party), which was the one in power, and the PSD (Social Democrat Party), which is the one who alternates with the PS, are the ones who are Bilderberg-controlled for sure[1].

The CDS-PP (Social Democratic Center-Popular Party, that claims to represent the "Christian Democrats") made a few years ago a coalition again with the PSD to form government and has, together with the PS and PSD, voted in favor of the Lisbon Treaty, which was not subject to a referendum, as promised by the PS, and that was, therefore, ratified by the Parliament.

The BE (Leftist Bloc) are mainly trotskyists and are pro-European.

The CDU (Unitarian Democratic Coalition) is the usual coalition with which the Portuguese Communist Party (PCP) presents itself for the elections together with its puppet party, the Ecologist Party The Greens, is of Stalinist tradition and the only one that is against the EU.

Take your pick...


(There were other very small parties, that didn't manage to elect any representative, of which four or so are news ones that recently appeared.)

As usual, the biggest percentage, corresponds to the people who didn't vote.


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[Mentioned somewhere else in this forum. I made a google search and found one most interesting web page about it.]


"Fatal Contact: Bird Flu in America"
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0800026/


http://www.flu.gov/news/birdfluinamerica.html

ABC TV Movie: Fatal Contact: Bird Flu in America

On Tuesday, May 9, 2006 at 8 p.m., the ABC television network aired a made-for-TV movie titled "Fatal Contact: Bird Flu in America." The movie follows an outbreak of the H5N1 avian flu virus from its origins in a Hong Kong market through its mutation into a pandemic virus that becomes easily transmittable from human to human and spreads rapidly around the world.

The Department of Health and Human Services prepared a Viewer's Guide and some anticipated Questions and Answers to provide factual information for viewers of the movie.

(...)


Viewer's Guide

*The ABC Movie "Fatal Contact: Bird Flu in America" is a movie, not a documentary. It is a work of fiction designed to entertain and not a factual accounting of a real world event.

*There is no influenza pandemic in the world at this time.

*Also, it is important to remember that H5N1 avian influenza is almost exclusively a disease of birds. The H5N1 virus has not yet appeared in the U.S.

*Should the H5N1 virus appear in the U.S., it does not mean the start of a pandemic.

*An additional point to remember is that the next influenza pandemic could be substantially less severe than what the movie depicts or that occurred in 1918. For example, the influenza pandemics of 1957/58 and 1968/69 caused so much less illness and death than did the 1918/19 pandemic that many Americans at that time did not distinguish them from seasonal influenza and were unaware that a pandemic was underway.

*While the movie does serve to raise awareness about avian and pandemic flu, we hope it will inspire preparation - not panic. There are steps individuals, families and communities can take to prepare. You can keep a supply of food and medicines on hand in case you have to stay home, you can practice good public health measures like frequent hand washing and staying home when sick. There is good information available on www.pandemicflu.gov.

*The film does depict scenarios that could unfold should a severe pandemic ever develop, including limited availability of antivirals and vaccines as well as the potential for disruption of supplies, medicines and other essential services.

*The film also illustrates the expected months-long delay in developing an effective vaccine against a pandemic strain of influenza once it emerges. This is why, at the President's request, the Congress approved funding for the Department of Health and Human Services to make significant financial investments to improve the technology for vaccine development and to build up our domestic vaccine production capacity, to ensure more rapid availability of vaccine for the population in a pandemic.

*The film highlights an important aspect of planning - individual and community planning and cooperation that will be so vital to sustaining communities and neighborhoods during an extended wave of an influenza pandemic. HHS has developed an extensive set of planning documents, including planning checklists for businesses, schools, health care providers, community organizations and states as well as an individual and family planning guide. All of these materials are available at www.pandemicflu.gov.

*While the H5N1 virus has not yet appeared in the U.S., and there is no influenza pandemic in the world at this time, it is important for all Americans to be informed about this potential public health threat and some of the steps individual Americans can take to protect themselves and their families in the event of a pandemic.

Another TV series I heard Alex mentioning once...

Boy... this one I won't even comment...


"Jericho" (TV series)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jericho_(TV_series)


Synopsis


First Season

The storyline centers on the residents of Jericho, a small, rural Kansas town, in the aftermath of nuclear attacks on 23 major cities in the contiguous United States. The series begins with a visible nuclear detonation of unknown origin in nearby Denver, Colorado, and a loss of power and modern communications, effectively isolating Jericho. Later, power is restored to Jericho by what is alluded to as the efforts of the U.S. government, but soon after, an electromagnetic pulse (EMP) disables all electronics. Several themes regularly addressed in the show included the gathering of information, community identity, public order, limited resources, the value of family, hardships of fatherhood and internal and external threats. The show also features several mysteries involving the backgrounds of major characters, the perpetrators of the attack, and the extent of damage to the United States and its government.

The pivotal character in this story is Jake Green, the 32-year-old son of Mayor Johnston Green. Jake Green fled the town of Jericho 5 years earlier when he became mixed up with the wrong people and involved in questionable activity. Jake briefly returns home to claim his inheritance before becoming stranded as a result of the catastrophe. After a somewhat awkward return home and a tense reunion with his father, Jake steps up to become a leader in Jericho, fighting to protect the town and its citizens. As the people of Jericho struggle to survive in a changed world, most remain unaware that one of the newest residents, Robert Hawkins, knows a lot more about the attacks than he lets on.

Second season

The Allied States of America's military forces have since restored order to Jericho and its surrounding region, putting an abrupt end to the conflict between Jericho and its rival town, New Bern. As a sense of normality returns to town, the plot shifts away from the day to day survivalist issues facing Jericho's inhabitants, to life and political intrigue under the ASA government.

Known only to Hawkins and a select few, the September attacks were neither a foreign nor domestic terrorist act, but a conspiracy of unknown perpetrators within the highest level of the former government. Hawkins must calculate his every move to avoid capture, to piece together the trail of evidence, and ultimately, to bring the truth to light before the conspiracy's mastermind buries it forever.

Meanwhile, Jericho's residents deal with the reality of the Cheyenne-based ASA government. Initially welcomed as saviors, the government's military and mercenary agents transform life in Jericho into a repressive police-state. When a J&R contractor kills a Jericho woman to conceal his embezzlement, the town is put on the edge of open revolt.

Hawkins makes contact with Jake, and the two make it to the Republic of Texas embassy in Cheyenne with critical evidence (the only undetonated bomb from the September attacks) with the ASA's military right behind them. The Republic is considered the swing state in the struggle for power between the Eastern United States and the Allied States, and the ambassador manages to secure a small jet to carry Jake, Hawkins, and the device to Texas. While in-flight, two ASA fighter jets intercept Jake and Hawkins, determined to keep them from turning over the nuclear evidence. At the last second, right as the two ASA fighters fall back to open fire when Jake refuses to turn around to be escorted back to Cheyenne, two Texas fighters appear and shoot down the ASA planes. Jake and Hawkins make it to Texas with the evidence, and Hawkins ominously intones that the Second American Civil War was always coming, and that the two of them have made history by giving the United States a fighting chance in the war to come.

"One puzzling result — those who became infected had as much virus in their blood whether they got the vaccine or a placebo"

--- http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/25/health/research/25aids.html


Doesn't this mean that the vaccine is not working?

If everyone that has taken the vaccine has created antibodies, how do they know if someone has got the virus and has been able to defeat it or never got the virus at all?

There's a whole network of sites that specializes on the coverage of this kind of protests that has a local Pittsburgh chapter.

The link is http://pittsburgh.indymedia.org/ and if you click on it during these days it will automatically redirect you to a G20 subpage that was built just to cover this ongoing protests.

The lawsuit was killed on the premiss that the United States President cannot be sued.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=stanley+hilton+site%3Awww.prisonplanet.com

A great archive available at www.globalresearch.ca concerning this specific H1N1 pandemic and the danger of vaccines in general:


"THE H1N1 SWINE FLU PANDEMIC"

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=newsHighlights&newsId=46

You're welcome.

I've just send the link to it to three very nice people I've met from Ireland.

(Irish anarchists campaigning again for the NO.)


Great newspaper by the way, your "Sovereign Independent".

Thanks. It was a carefully chosen frame. Mainly in order not to make Alex look bad (with a strange face...).

Who funds Greenpeace?

http://www.activistcash.com/organization_financials.cfm/oid/131


Who founded the WWF? Who has presided over it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Wide_Fund_for_Nature

[I've already posted the link to this news in here in a previous topic of mine - http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=64512.0 - but just thought it was worth to call the attention for it in a separate topic. The translation is from Babel Fish and I think it's decent enough to be understood.]


http://www.amazonia.org.br/noticias/noticia.cfm?id=159911
http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=bf-home&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazonia.org.br%2Fnoticias%2Fnoticia.cfm%3Fid%3D159911&lp=pt_en&btnTrUrl=Translate



ONGs is façade for rich countries, says report - 08/05/2005

Place: São Paulo - SP
Source: The State of S.Paulo
Link: http://www.estado.com.br/

Ambient and indigenistas causes would be excuse so that dominant nations run away to the control of the State

BRASILIA - the report of the Abin says that it arrives the 115 the number of not-governmental organizations (ONGs) that they act in the Amazônia Occidental person and raises suspicion on the real interests of these entities.  “Many times, the service of other nations, value the detailed mapping of the mineral wealth, the access to the genetic resources and to the traditional knowledge associates to the biodiversity of the region, without the had governmental control”, say the report of colonel Gelio Fregapani.  “Everything indicates that the ambient and indigenistas problems are only excuses.  That main the ONGs is, in the reality, parts of the great game where if the hegemonic countries pledge to keep and to extend its domination”, alert the text.  “Certainly they serve of covering for its private services.”

In accordance with the document, the ONGs had contributed for the creation of extensive aboriginal lands, ecological areas of ambient protection and corridors that, currently, “without a doubt some, make it difficult and inhibit the presence of State e (application) of the programs of public politics for the region”.  The document standes out that control lack strengthens the suspicion of that the ONGs is used by the developed countries to control the emergent countries and the wealth of vast territories.

The Abin calls the ambientalistas movements “Club of the Islands” it classifies and them in three sectors: one elaborates the general lines of direction, another one plans the operations and one third, the call front line, carries through the direct action as a “shock troop”.  In the top, they are the National Union for the Conservation of Natureza (UINC) and Deep the World-wide one for Natureza (WWF), guided for Charles Prince, of the United kingdom, and that it would have between its controllers the banker Joseph Harvest.

In the area of the reserve ianomâmi, glue to the Fox Mountain range of the Sun, one of the ONGs with bigger influence, according to Abin, is the Survival International (ITSELF), whose script of performance was created by Philip Prince, also of the United kingdom.  The structuralized international ONG more would be the Greenpeace group.  The actions most radical would be executed by the Greenpeace and Amigos of the Land.

According to Abin, the Indigenista Advice Missionary (Cimi), from the Church Catholic, main defender of the “autonomy and the self-determination of the aboriginals”, would have received, between 1992 and 1994, US$ 85 million the National Foundation for the Democracy, of the United States, kept for the government and directed for the American Congress.


Click in link to read the notice in the complete one:

http://txt.estado.com.br/editorias/2005/05/08/pol014.html

Thank you very much for the upload UKStewart82.

The Internet stream is playing Jason Bermas' Show, I'm curious to hear what sociostudent has said and have to leave in a few hours.

All this to say, your mp3s, available less than an hour after the show has ended, come in great timing.

I'll download it to hear on my mp3 player during my journey. Thanks.

Nice.

I can download it now. Thanks.

Hello there from a Lisbon suburb.

Good luck to your campaign there in Ireland.

Ahaha


The full video showing in big letters "INFOWARS.COM" and "PRISONPLANET.COM" in the second half, the full letter, a link to "TheAlexJonesChannel" on YouTube with Sheen's interview on "The Alex Jones Show"...

Way to go Charlie Sheen and Alex Jones!

This is really working.

Thank you NWO-controlled media for promoting your adversaries.

I can't read it.

"Document Viewer" in GNU/Linux gives me an error:

"Unable to open document
"PDF document is damaged"

I'm uploading the torrent to someone in Turkey right now.

Nice.

I'll keep seeding the torrent anyway, as long as I can.

The download sites might go down and a torrent might be more convenient to some people.

Yep. Woke up and can see that it has been uploading all day. Managed to update the torrent info and is now correctly showing 4 seeds and 3 leechers. It's definitely a working torrent then. I can only seed it until Sunday night and after that it will be some weeks before I can restart sharing this kind of things 24/7.

I think I got it.

http://www.mininova.org/tor/2895528

I can't update the number of seeds and leechers (I know there's a minimum time limit between updates, and I guess the first was automatically made in the upload process), but I'm seeding it.

(6 am. now I really have to go get some sleep.)