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81  ***THE MAIN BOARDS - Welcome to the Prison Planet Forum*** / Questions / Re: Does anyone here speak Serbo-Croatian? on: 06 January 2010, 14:48
Thank you very much for your availability, Harconen. Smiley

I don't want to give too much work to you or anyone else. Whatever you would be willing to tell us about the book, if you ever have a chance to read it, would be fine.

Thank you very much once again.
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82  ***THE MAIN BOARDS - Welcome to the Prison Planet Forum*** / Questions / Does anyone here speak Serbo-Croatian? on: 05 January 2010, 17:20
(It's a long shot, but worth a try, I guess...)

I'm asking this because I'm trying to find someone that might have read a book, that is only written in this language, that possibly talks about a NWO operation or conspiracy.

The book I'm talking about is one called "Enigma Broz - Ko Ste Vi Druze Predsednice?" ("The Broz Question - Who Are You Mr. President?") and was written by a Dr. Matunovic - one of Marshal Tito's former medical doctors. It talks about the mysterious origin of the former Yugoslav dictator.

Here's one reference to it: http://openlibrary.org/b/OL472957M/Enigma_Broz

I remember someone from Macedonia telling me some years ago that this book was written because the doctor in question was intrigued by his patient's personal history.

According to what this person told me, this particular doctor was intrigued by questions such as how did someone with a supposedly poor background could play (well?) the piano and speak 7(?) languages, how come no one in his supposed place of birth recognized him, and other things about Tito that didn't add up.

From what I remember that was told to me, some of what the doctor argued as explanation was that Tito was a friend of Churchill and a Freemason and that the real Tito had died in the First World War(?) and that the one we know as such was a Pole aristocrat that stole his identity with the object of making "a Socialist experiment called Yugoslavia"... And I have the impression that there was also something about Tito's accent...

I don't know what in the book is fact and what is speculation, but knowing how the story that was described to me fits well into what I know about the whole NWO conspiracy, I have been ever since most curious to know more about it.

So I was looking for someone who could tell me more about the book or maybe provide me links to pages written in English (or in some Latin language) with more information about it.
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83  Globalization and the plan for NWO / EU/Unfair Trade/Globalization / Re: the "Black Nobility" origin of Bilderberg on: 05 January 2010, 17:13
You're welcome.

Estulin had a blog for some time, were he regularly published information, also in english - www.danielestulin.com. But now he only occasionally publishes stuff on the www.bilderbergbook.com site.

I wouldn't consider him a genius. But definitely a great investigator.

And concerning the Black Nobility organized crime syndicate, as I already suspected[1] for some time, Estulin has more recently said that it goes even further back in time, and that this generational conspiracy is around 800 years old. And like what he says in the final quote, that I've posted, might indicate, he has also recently said that this people are not just trillionaires, their accumulated wealth for all this centuries of exploiting and ripping off people is measured in the incredible amount of hundreds of quadrillions of dollars...


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1. http://www.schillerinstitute.org/fid_91-96/954_Gallagher_Venice_rig.html
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84  Globalization and the plan for NWO / FAKE WARS:Terror/Drugs/Education/Pandemic/Peak Oil Lies / Re: The recurring myth of Peak Oil (a Must Read) on: 03 January 2010, 11:19
aLLyOuRbAsE:

I understand your point. And agree that we differ in the way we look at the problem.
Take Care and Good Luck for the near future.


Damascus:

Reserve estimates for individual fields and whole areas have to sometimes be corrected when it's eventually discovered that either there is not as much oil as previously thought or, like in the cases you describe, due to being more oil after all than expected. Yet even the latter together with recent significant discoveries of new fields, have barely affected the date of Peak, due to the rate at which oil is being consumed. And current consumption records and estimates indicate that we are at Peak now.
Take Care and Good Luck.
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85  Globalization and the plan for NWO / FAKE WARS:Terror/Drugs/Education/Pandemic/Peak Oil Lies / Re: The recurring myth of Peak Oil (a Must Read) on: 02 January 2010, 16:19
I know that several people who partially understand the speculative and fraudulent way our economy works, including Alex Jones and Michael C. Ruppert, have been warning for years that a crash, or bubble burst, was coming, with Ruppert and another saying that what was coming would "make 1929 look like a picnic".

Yet even if that is partially the cause of what is happening now, it's irrelevant, believe it or not, when we look at the big picture, and does not account for the whole Big Crash, caused by diminishing oil reserves, that is starting to manifest itself and that, believe me, will be clearly visible in the following years.

Whatever economic system people are living in, every country in the World is now experiencing only the start of what will be a Huge Economic Collapse.

You don't have to be a specialist to know that, once the energy base that has made economic growth possible until recently starts to disappear, the whole economy itself will inevitably collapse. And given the fact that it has grown quite considerably, we can easily deduce that the crash itself will also not be one of small proportions.

Millions of people are dying of starvation because a good part of the fields that were until recently used to grow food are now being used to grow biofuels as a way to compensate for the lack of oil. (Another clear sign that the gap between supply and demand is growing already.)

As for Peak Oil being the main reason for 9/11, I think there are other ways of providing excuses to take away people's rights, other than a false flag attack blamed on some people in Central Asia preventing the construction of a natural gas pipeline... (Look at Oklahoma City, etc.) So I guess it's debatable.

I would be most happy if there was a viable solution, in terms of substitutes, to our most severe energy and food problem, but from what I know, there isn't any. If there is, is pretty well hidden, since I don't see anything coming out of countries such as Russia and others that are not controlled by the NWO.

You can read all about the viability of alternative energy sources in Richard Heinberg's great book "The Party's Over".

Please do inform yourselves about this.

As I said... It's going to be a hell of an earthquake and you have to prepare yourselves in any way you can.

http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/
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86  Globalization and the plan for NWO / FAKE WARS:Terror/Drugs/Education/Pandemic/Peak Oil Lies / Re: The recurring myth of Peak Oil (a Must Read) on: 30 December 2009, 11:50
Peak Oil is the reason why the economy is collapsing, the reason why China has been experiencing blackouts and brownouts since 2004, the reason why millions of people are dying already of starvation in Third World countries, the main reason why 9/11 happened at this time in History and the reason why the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq might have been the beginning of a Third World War... So I strongly disagree with it being a "non-issue"...

The NWO elites are trying to prevent people's access to cheap forms of energy, yes. With their main target being nuclear energy.

As several investigators have pointed, their plan is to make everyone dependent on them and to deindustrialize the world in order to destroy the middle-class and depopulate the Earth.

But, unfortunately, we live in a world of finite resources. And the reason why you cannot keep on pumping oil out of the ground at ever increasing rates is the same reason why you cannot endlessly mine coal, uranium or any other resource that is also bound to peak in this century.

Concerning the fact if Peak Oil is a myth or not, I think that the statements I called the attention for, make no need for further proof...

And I agree that, whatever the case, we definitely need to take back control of society from the psychopathic elites that dictate our lives and are driving everyone off a cliff, so that we can better manage whatever problems our society is destined to encounter and freely continue researching possible alternative energy sources.

I just posted this facts here to warn all you good people that come here about the most severe and worrying implications this phenomenon of diminishing oil reserves has, for you to prepare yourselves in any way you can.

The transition back to a less industrialized society is bound to be traumatic and you have to, at least, mentally prepare yourselves for that, and not be taken by surprise, like all the people who didn't see this economic collapse coming, and are paying hard for it, have been.

This is the major flaw I see in the so-called Patriot Movement there in the US, that I think Alex Jones and the people posting in this forum are a representation of. You are not aware of this and you should definitely try to inform yourselves better about it.

Research about this on your own, read and listen to Richard Heinberg and Michael C. Ruppert, and make your own judgement...
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87  ***THE MAIN BOARDS - Welcome to the Prison Planet Forum*** / CIA'S PROJECT MOCKINGBIRD: Mainstream Media / War and Tyranny Propaganda / Re: Al Jazeera English - NWO propaganda all the way on: 29 December 2009, 12:19
We need more security at airports; We need an even more intrusive and controlling police state:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZjzu9CH2-s

By the way, none of the following happened:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/bombshell-evidence-clearly-indicates-staged-attack-on-detroit-flight.html

Disgusting...
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88  ***THE MAIN BOARDS - Welcome to the Prison Planet Forum*** / Questions / Re: Best place to move? on: 29 December 2009, 07:36
The countryside, yes. Close to where the food is produced.

Because of this:

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=63630.msg900364#msg900364
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89  ***THE MAIN BOARDS - Welcome to the Prison Planet Forum*** / General Discussion / Re: John Lennon VS The Illuminati on: 29 December 2009, 06:49
Another good thing for the brain, better than all the pop (and whatever) music that has become the mainstream, is also good electronic and environmental music.

As a DJ around here says, "Electronic [music] is above all music for the mind. Subtle, evanescent, intensely cerebral..."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmO7TdQfcKs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lLWHfyG1Ss
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90  ***THE MAIN BOARDS - Welcome to the Prison Planet Forum*** / General Discussion / Re: John Lennon VS The Illuminati on: 28 December 2009, 17:10

Well, I'm still trying to figure out what's the story with that rapper called "Jay-Z" constantly making a triangle symbol with his hands and working for a company called "Roc-A-Fella Records"... Smiley
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91  ***THE MAIN BOARDS - Welcome to the Prison Planet Forum*** / General Discussion / Re: John Lennon VS The Illuminati on: 28 December 2009, 15:57
I always liked a lot that song from Lennon, and I've just checked, and in that one, as expected, he didn't have any helping hand...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Give_Peace_a_Chance


And still, to better illustrate the point I was trying to make about Classical Music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhXHMzSOK5c
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92  ***THE MAIN BOARDS - Welcome to the Prison Planet Forum*** / Global Warming Fraud intended to increase central control / Re: Brazilian secret service denounced in 2005 NWO control of environmental groups on: 28 December 2009, 11:12
And who's behind the cartoon propaganda that I watched as a kid, and that probably influenced my decision to not even get a driver's license, for years, due to environmental concerns?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Planet_and_the_Planeteers

Committee-of-300 member Ted Turner...
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93  ***THE MAIN BOARDS - Welcome to the Prison Planet Forum*** / General Discussion / Re: John Lennon VS The Illuminati on: 28 December 2009, 10:00

I also strongly suspect that Lennon was killed by the powers-that-be.

To have one of the greatest icons of that era, with who knows how many millions of fans, actively fighting the establishment...
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94  ***THE MAIN BOARDS - Welcome to the Prison Planet Forum*** / General Discussion / Re: John Lennon VS The Illuminati on: 28 December 2009, 07:30
Detoxify yourselves from all the crap music that is all over the radio waves and television.

Start listening to Classical Music and Opera.

Their complexity, attention to detail, and beauty are good for the brain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ9qWpa2rIg
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/
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95  ***THE MAIN BOARDS - Welcome to the Prison Planet Forum*** / General Discussion / Re: John Lennon VS The Illuminati on: 28 December 2009, 05:48

You might want to check this then, hal 9000:

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=97552
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96  ***THE MAIN BOARDS - Welcome to the Prison Planet Forum*** / Introductions/Personal Requests/Personal Stories/Personal Websites / Re: Information Addiction Syndrome (IAS) on: 27 December 2009, 15:26

There's also this one, made by a member of this forum, but you probably already know about it:

http://www.corbettreport.com/
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97  ***THE MAIN BOARDS - Welcome to the Prison Planet Forum*** / Introductions/Personal Requests/Personal Stories/Personal Websites / Re: Information Addiction Syndrome (IAS) on: 27 December 2009, 15:01

Webster Tarpley's Saturday radio show:

http://tarpley.net/world-crisis-radio/
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98  ***THE MAIN BOARDS - Welcome to the Prison Planet Forum*** / General Discussion / Re: Random Movie Recommendations on: 25 December 2009, 08:14
Oh, and out of curiosity, you might all want to check this film also:

- Joy Division (2006, "spy film")


There's a most interesting line, at a point, in that movie.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=101541
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99  ***THE MAIN BOARDS - Welcome to the Prison Planet Forum*** / General Discussion / Re: Pizza Hut cheese is not just cheese, its silicone! on: 23 December 2009, 23:41
One thing I remember, when I went to pick up a pizza at the local Pizza Hut, some years ago, is seeing a guy there spraying something from an aerosol can over the pizza before putting it in the box and delivering it to me.
I think the person I went there to pick up the pizza for told me it was just to make it more "shiny".
Does anyone know what the hell that aerosol is?
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100  ***THE MAIN BOARDS - Welcome to the Prison Planet Forum*** / Rockefeller/Rothschild current false flag plans / Re: one piece of Hegelian Propaganda produced by the Rockefeller Foundation on: 22 December 2009, 23:57
Full video uncut in the first search result:

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=the+fourth+world+war


(76 minutes, Big Noise Films, 2003 - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0439574/)
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101  ***THE MAIN BOARDS - Welcome to the Prison Planet Forum*** / Rockefeller/Rothschild current false flag plans / Re: one piece of Hegelian Propaganda produced by the Rockefeller Foundation on: 22 December 2009, 18:36
Another movie teaching the "rebels" how to behave.

Are you dissatisfied with the present political system? Feel enraged about it?

Well come on and do like we do. In this movie you'll learn how to commit acts of vandalism, break into people's houses, kidnap people, and blow up communications infrastructures. All with lot's of "style" included. But hey, don't feel bad about it. It's for a good cause.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Edukators

Praised by the mass media and nominated for an award. Why am I not surprised?

I can't find it now, but I remember that some years ago, after I saw the movie, there was an official web page saying something like "Did you like the movie? Come on and join here." (Whatever the link pointed to.) It seemed to be like that Zeitgeist movement thing, trying to lead people in a certain direction.
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102  ***THE MAIN BOARDS - Welcome to the Prison Planet Forum*** / General Discussion / Re: Random Movie Recommendations on: 21 December 2009, 19:01

- Escape from Sobibor (1987)

- Spartacus (1960, Stanley Kubrick)

- Braveheart (1995)
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103  ***THE MAIN BOARDS - Welcome to the Prison Planet Forum*** / General Discussion / Re: Due to global warming, the federal government will be closed on Monday. on: 21 December 2009, 04:44
Satellite image, from 12 days ago, while the Copenhagen summit was being held:





The Iberian Peninsula (were I'm writing from) is also being hit by a polar cold wave and people have been warned in the news to be careful.

How more ironic can this be?

hehe Smiley
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104  ***THE MAIN BOARDS - Welcome to the Prison Planet Forum*** / Questions / Re: Is There A Defined-Group That Controls Us? on: 20 December 2009, 02:11
Yes, there's an already identified and exposed group, that ultimately controls the Western World, and big parts of the rest, from the backstage. They're 300 not 10. And they are called the "Olympians".

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=43443

That's the top of the pyramid.
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105  ***THE MAIN BOARDS - Welcome to the Prison Planet Forum*** / MI6 Mumbai False Flag / 'Mumbai gunman' retracts confession on: 18 December 2009, 17:13
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2009/12/20091218144156681317.html
Friday, December 18, 2009 19:06 Mecca time, 16:06 GMT


'Mumbai gunman' retracts confession


A man accused of taking part in a deadly siege in the Indian city of Mumbai in 2008 has retracted his confession, claiming that police tortured him into admitting his role in the attacks.

Mohammed Ajmal Kasab, 22, told the judge in a special court on Friday that he came to Mumbai as a tourist and was arrested 20 days before the siege began.

"I was not present at VT [Victoria Terminus, the former name of Mumbai's main railway station]. I do not know what has happened," Kasab said.

"Witnesses have come and recognised me because my face looks similar to the terrorists ... that is why I was picked up. I have been framed", he said.

The Pakistani national denies being the man photographed with an assault rifle in pictures taken at Mumbai's main train station, one of several sites targeted by the gunmen.

Kasab faces a string of charges in connection with the attacks by 10 heavily armed gunmen on multiple targets in India's financial capital, including "waging war" on the country, murder and attempted murder.

A verdict is expected early next year. Kasab could be executed if found guilty.

At least 166 people died in the attacks, in which 10 men armed with rifles stormed two luxury hotels, a Jewish centre and the train station. Nine of the gunmen were killed.

'Clinching evidence'

Speaking outside court, prosecution lawyer Ujjwal Nikam dismissed Kasab's claims as his latest "U-turn" and said it would not affect the trial because there was "strong and clinching evidence" against him.

The prosecution has presented security camera footage and press photographs that they say show Kasab and an accomplice, Abu Ismail, at the station with powerful AK-47 assault rifles.

DNA and fingerprint evidence matching Kasab has also been produced.

But Kasab told the court: "If you see, all witness accounts are similar. They talk about a tall guy and a short guy. This shows that the police have told these people to identify me as a terrorist.

"I have learnt from the police that the short guy is dead. His name is Abu Ali."

Abu Ali was one of the four gunmen killed during the 60-hour siege at the luxury Taj Mahal Palace and Tower hotel.

Kasab said he had initially travelled by train to Mumbai - home of the Bollywood film industry -"to see cinema" and was picked up by police on a beach in the northern suburbs 20 days before the attacks.

The 22-year old said he was initially brought into police custody after wandering around the city late at night, looking for a place to stay. His Pakistani citizenship aroused suspicion, he said.

Kasab also claims that police took him from his cell on the day the attacks started because he resembled one of the gunmen, and then shot him to make it look as if he had been involved in the attacks and re-arrested him.



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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8419996.stm
11:23 GMT, Friday, 18 December 2009


Mumbai accused says he was framed


The man alleged to be the sole surviving gunman in last year's Mumbai attacks, Mohammad Qasab, has retracted a confession that he took part.

Giving evidence in his defence, Mr Qasab, a Pakistani national, said he had been forced by police to confess after being repeatedly beaten up.

He said he was not the man seen in pictures wielding an assault rifle during the attacks.

Mr Qasab faces 86 charges, including waging war on India and murder.

The November 2008 attacks left 174 people dead, including nine gunmen, and strained ties between India and Pakistan.

The BBC's Prachi Pinglay said Mr Qasab looked calm in court as he repeatedly denied having anything to do with the attacks, insisting he had been framed by the police.

A special court in Mumbai (Bombay) is prosecuting him and a verdict in the case is expected early next year.

'Completely wrong'

Giving evidence in court, Mr Qasab said that all previous confessions he had given in relation to the attacks were false and made under duress. He said that an identity parade in which he took part had been "manipulated" by police.

He said that he had never been to any of the locations where the attacks took place and prior to his appearance in court had never even seen an AK-47 assault rifle.

He said that numerous eyewitness accounts of his role in the attacks were "completely wrong".

Mr Qasab said that Mumbai police had arrested him 20 days before the attacks on a beach in the state of Maharashtra and later went on to frame him.

He said he was in custody when the attacks took place.

He told the court that the man widely photographed as the sole surviving gunman in the attacks "was not me, but someone who resembles me".

In what our correspondent says was an apparent sign of his lack of belief that he will receive a fair trial, Mr Qasab urged the judge in the case to send him to jail as soon as possible.

On Wednesday the prosecution concluded its case in the trial.

In all, 610 witnesses have testified since the case began in March. Our correspondent says that Mr Qasab's latest comments mean that the main defence argument is one of identity.

Mr Qasab originally denied the charges against him but in July, in a dramatic outburst in court, he admitted his role and asked to be hanged. His plea was not accepted and the trial continued.

Following the attacks, India suspended peace talks with Pakistan.

After initial denials, Pakistan acknowledged that Mr Qasab was one of its citizens and that the attacks had been partially planned on its territory.

Last month, a court in Pakistan charged seven people in connection with the attacks, including the suspected mastermind Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi, who is the alleged head of the banned militant group Lashkar-e-Taiba.
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106  ***THE MAIN BOARDS - Welcome to the Prison Planet Forum*** / CIA'S PROJECT MOCKINGBIRD: Mainstream Media / War and Tyranny Propaganda / Re: Al Jazeera English - controlled opposition all the way on: 16 December 2009, 12:26
And just to correct something I said in my analysis: "'left-wing' alternative, with alternative controlled-left guests" is not a good way to describe Al Jazeera. "pseudo-independent alternative, with alternative controlled guests" is a better way to describe it. For the reasons I have stated above and because Al Jazeera does have guests from all across the controlled authoritarian political spectrum...
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107  ***THE MAIN BOARDS - Welcome to the Prison Planet Forum*** / *CLIMATEGATE: Whistleblower exposes global warming is a HOAX! / Re: Lord Monckton THANK YOU on: 15 December 2009, 17:17
The video was posted on YouTube by one of the nazis.

Here's the link to it with the title and description: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne-X_vFWMlw

Monckton went there alone to politely debate with them, in a public place were they were there to do just that, and they have the nerve to say that they were the ones who have now been "invaded"...
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108  ***THE MAIN BOARDS - Welcome to the Prison Planet Forum*** / CIA'S PROJECT MOCKINGBIRD: Mainstream Media / War and Tyranny Propaganda / Re: Al Jazeera English - controlled opposition all the way on: 15 December 2009, 15:56
Even CNN and FOX News, I've just checked, have interviewed Jesse Ventura. So that alone, again, doesn't mean anything. Although this interview at Al Jazeera was most interesting... Maybe a small "slip" that went too much into the "anti-system" side... Smiley

Concerning BBC, they even made a documentary promoting Al Jazeera, that I was stupid enough to watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtBsVIEo0xk
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109  ***THE MAIN BOARDS - Welcome to the Prison Planet Forum*** / *CLIMATEGATE: Whistleblower exposes global warming is a HOAX! / Re: Lord Monckton THANK YOU on: 15 December 2009, 13:36
Most eloquent response from Lord Monckton to Hitler Youth retards:

http://www.youtube.com/v/ne-X_vFWMlw


(I particularly like what he says at the end.)
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110  ***THE MAIN BOARDS - Welcome to the Prison Planet Forum*** / CIA'S PROJECT MOCKINGBIRD: Mainstream Media / War and Tyranny Propaganda / Re: Al Jazeera English - controlled opposition all the way on: 15 December 2009, 13:06
For all of you not to go out there saying Al Jazeera is not fair and does not give air time to dissenting voices...:

http://english.aljazeera.net/focus/climatesos/2009/12/2009124191343603151.html


("Lord Monckton? John Coleman, the founder of the Weather Channel? 30,000 scientists trying to sue Al Gore? What's that Channel 4 documentary called again?")
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111  Globalization and the plan for NWO / FAKE WARS:Terror/Drugs/Education/Pandemic/Peak Oil Lies / Re: The recurring myth of Peak Oil (a Must Read) on: 15 December 2009, 11:19
Our rulers are even trying to hide this fact, in order for the economy not to collapse in an uncontrolled way. They will only discreetly admit it, in order to avoid talking about the severe economic repercussions it's having already:


"At Rottach-Egern, in May 2005, industry's top executives tried to figure out how to keep the truth about diminishing oil reserves from reaching the public. Public knowledge of the diminishing reserves directly translates into lower share prices, which could destroy financial markets, leading to a collapse of the world economy."
(...)
"European and American Bilderbergers realising the most urgent of needs to expand into developing markets in order to help sustain the illusion of endless growth"

--- http://www.infowars.com/articles/nwo/bilderberg_world_in_palm_of_hands.htm


I see it here in Portugal, with an eternal promise to build a new airport, for example. A project that the government is always saying that is going to go forward with, and that has been talked about for years now in the media, but that is never actually started. I remember a reporter once asking the local Bilderberg-attendee corrupt Prime-Minister what sense did it make to build a new airport if oil reserves are diminishing and his only answer was "Ah... well, but people will continue to need to travel..." and immediately changed the subject.
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112  ***THE MAIN BOARDS - Welcome to the Prison Planet Forum*** / Global Warming Fraud intended to increase central control / Re: Brazilian secret service denounced in 2005 NWO control of environmental groups on: 14 December 2009, 15:49
NWO funding of the current 350.org campaign:


"On October 24, 2009, thousands of ordinary citizens around the globe united for an international Day of Action on climate change. Led by RBF [Rockefeller Brothers Fund] grantee Sustainable Market Foundation's 350.org campaign"

--- http://www.rbf.org/resources/resources_show.htm?cat_id=1668&doc_id=1067655
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113  Globalization and the plan for NWO / Alternative Energy / Re: PEAK OIL MYTH on: 14 December 2009, 12:12
It's not a myth.

After reading your post, I finally managed to have the time to gather some core information I've collected on the subject, and I've posted it here on this forum, to warn all the good people that come in here about a most worrying implication this phenomenon has.

I've put it in a thread located in the sub-forum that includes the term "Peak Oil lies" in the title, since I thought it would be more proper:

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=63630.msg899883#msg899883
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114  Globalization and the plan for NWO / FAKE WARS:Terror/Drugs/Education/Pandemic/Peak Oil Lies / Re: The recurring myth of Peak Oil (a Must Read) on: 14 December 2009, 12:00
[Even if the NWO elites are suppressing some of their production to have some reserves left after the crash, all the evidence points to this being a real phenomenon that is happening world-wide. And this is the main reason why you should worry about it:]



[Dale Allen Pfeiffer:] "Go to the refrigerator (powered and produced via hydrocarbons) and take out any food item. Every single calorie of food requires ten calories of hydrocarbons. This is the blessing of modern hydrocarbon based agriculture with its natural gas based fertilizers and oil based pesticides. The human population on this planet currently exceeds 6 billion. Without hydrocarbon based agriculture, it is estimated that this planet could only sustain 2.5 billion people."

http://globalresearch.ca/articles/PFE307A.html


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(7m20s) [Michael C. Ruppert:] "...all pesticides are petroleum-based, all commercial pesticides... and all commercial fertilizers are derived from ammonia, which is made from natural gas, oil's twin sister... and it is oil and gas that allow one acre of land that would normally produce 30 bushels of corn to produce 135 bushels of corn... that's what's feeding the world today."

http://www.radio4all.net/proginfo.php?id=5573


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(31m11s) [Prof. Heinberg:] "...this is probably the biggest problem that we face as a species right now. We have created a form of food production - industrial agriculture - that is dependent on fossil fuel inputs at every stage of the process. From transportation of seeds and distribution of seeds and now, and horrifically, more and more genetically-engineered seeds, to the inputs of chemical fertilizers (ammonia fertilizers) almost all made from natural gas currently, through the Haber/Bosch synthesis process, to chemical insecticides and herbicides, again, almost all made from petroleum by-products, to harvesting and transportation of food. The typical American meal this days has... the food has travelled 1300 miles before it gets to our plates. At each stage of that... of that process we are dependent, and increasingly dependent, on fossil fuels. The problem with this globalization of the food supply is not just dependency, but also the fact that, as we have created this current food system, we have cannibalized and destroyed the previous locally-based non-chemically dependent food system, so it's not as tough we can just fall back on the small farmers, you know, living locally, who can supply all of our food needs, all of those local farmers are gone. Back at the turn of the century, 70% of the American population was still rural. There were still millions and millions of farmers. These days, well... I think in the year 2000 census, there wasn't even a category, there wasn't even a box you could check of for full-time farmer, because there were so few of them left in... in the U.S. The only way that kind of food system works, where the entire population is dependent on just a very very few people, is if those few people are using giant machines and burning tones of fossil fuel in order to produce and transport food. When those fossil fuels go away, we'll have to find another way to feed ourselves. Ultimately we are all going to be eating organic food, the question is "How we're... how we're going to get there?" and, once again, some planning, some foresight and some strategizing could... could make the transition much much easier than will be the case otherwise."

(...)

(34m20s) [Prof. Heinberg:] "...looking at the situation globally it's unlikely that we can make a transition to organic and ecological agriculture over the short term that would not entail a serious disruption of the human food supply. We're having trouble right know growing enough food for all the people in the world. We have had, historically, food surpluses... those have contributed in fact to population growth, but World Food Program, for example, issued a report on October 28th, just a couple of days ago, which said that although emergency food aid almost tripled over the 1990s it was not enough to meet growing needs. Population is still increasing. This year, the World Food Program had to suspend help to 3 million women, children and elderly people in North Korea because it had run out of resources. The spokesman said that the global emergency relief system is overwhelmed."
[Kéllia Ramares:] "Excuse me, but isn't that because the governments are not giving enough money to this programs?"
[Prof. Heinberg:] "There's that problem, but also global food production increases have stalled and we are actually seeing a reduction in... in the amount of grain being growned and harvested each year. This is unprecedented. We haven't seen this before. We're... we are actually getting to the limits of the amount of food that can be produced by our industrial agricultural system. And the transition back to a locally-based organic food production system is bound to be traumatic. So, of course, this then shifts the topic over to... to population."

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(36m08s) [Kéllia Ramares:] "There are populations in places where the land is not arable..."
[Prof. Heinberg:] "That's right. That's right. And we may, in fact, have already overshot the earth's ultimate carrying capacity for human beings and the carrying capacity for earth, absent fossil fuels, may be well... perhaps somewhere in the region of 2 billion humans, according to some estimates. At least that's what the population was a century ago, before we became dependent on fossil fuels for agriculture. So, the... the difference between the 6.2 billion we have now and the 2 billion that may be the sustainable long term carrying capacity for humans, is the number that we need to, probably, reduce our population by, over the next century. Theoretically that can be done if each couple were limited to... to one child, over the next century. But then, of course, we have a terrific political problem of finding a way to humanly reduce population..."

(...)

(38m53s) [Prof. Heinberg:] "...because, otherwise, unfortunately, I'm afraid that population control will... will happen through the ?thrive? and true means of famine, pestilence and war, which is not the outcome that any of us would want to see."


http://www.radio4all.net/proginfo.php?id=6048


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http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/100303_eating_oil.html
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/111703_korea_cuba_1.html
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/120103_korea_2.html
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115  ***THE MAIN BOARDS - Welcome to the Prison Planet Forum*** / CIA'S PROJECT MOCKINGBIRD: Mainstream Media / War and Tyranny Propaganda / Re: Al Jazeera English - controlled opposition all the way on: 14 December 2009, 10:05
Dr. Leonard Horowitz said in an interview that when he went to Harvard University they still taught the truth, and that the reason why diseases started to disappear world-wide was because of improvements in hygiene and nutrition. (http://www.suesupriano.com/article.php?&id=28)

The statistical data proves that vaccines either do not decrease the incidence of the disease the person is supposedly being immunized for or even increase it, let alone cause the appearance of other diseases caused by what's inside the vaccines. (One recent example - http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090519172045.htm ; Look on the web for a documentary called "Vaccination: The Hidden Truth")

Yes... it's incredible this situation of having to rely on a channel financed by the Russian state to tell us the truth about what's happening in the West. I guess it's the old saying: "The enemy of my enemy is my ally"... Smiley
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116  Globalization and the plan for NWO / FAKE WARS:Terror/Drugs/Education/Pandemic/Peak Oil Lies / Re: The recurring myth of Peak Oil (a Must Read) on: 13 December 2009, 20:22
"Ali Samsam Bakhtiari, Ph.D., of the National Iranian Oil Company, was firmly in the Peak Oil camp and he presented startling figures on oil depletion in Iran"

--- http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/053103_aspo.html



"'We're at the doorway of major energy crisis worldwide', Chavez said. 'We'll have to develop other resources such as wind, solar and nuclear energy - naturally for peaceful purposes'. He said Venezuela was in talks with Argentina and Brazil regarding nuclear power. 'Prices will continue to rise but oil is running out'"

--- http://www.energiekrise.de/e/aspo_news/aspo/newsletter059.pdf



"One oil industry insider at the meeting remarked that growth is not possible without energy and that, according to all indicators, the world's energy supply is coming to an end much faster than the world leaders have anticipated. According to sources, Bilderbergers estimate the extractable world's oil supply to be at a maximum of 35 years under current economic development and population. However, one of the representatives of an oil cartel remarked that we must factor into the equation, both the population explosion and economic growth and demand for oil in China and India. Under the revised conditions, there is apparently only enough oil to last for 20 years."

--- http://www.infowars.com/articles/nwo/bilderberg_world_in_palm_of_hands.htm



http://www.archive.org/details/estulinpart2
http://www.archive.org/details/estulinpart3



"with the stakes being the end of the world's oil reserves, the U.S. foreign policy will be to engage in militarism on the scale of the Roman Empire, while putting down dissent at home. That much we are already seeing."

--- Dr. John Coleman, "We Fight For Oil"



"independent and retired geologists have been talking about this problem for years; the companies have generally been discouraging the discussion in every way possible. I know because when I lecture about the subject, the people I find myself debating are usually industry PR reps (including, just recently, one from Shell), while the folks who offer the most informed encouragement are nearly always retired or independent geoscientists."

--- http://richardheinberg.live.postcarbon.org/museletter/171
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117  ***THE MAIN BOARDS - Welcome to the Prison Planet Forum*** / *CLIMATEGATE: Whistleblower exposes global warming is a HOAX! / Re: Whistleblowers exposes global warming is a HOAX! on: 13 December 2009, 17:36
Again, not surprisingly, the 350.org campaign is also NWO-funded:


"On October 24, 2009, thousands of ordinary citizens around the globe united for an international Day of Action on climate change. Led by RBF grantee Sustainable Market Foundation's 350.org campaign"

--- http://www.rbf.org/resources/resources_show.htm?cat_id=1668&doc_id=1067655
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118  ***THE MAIN BOARDS - Welcome to the Prison Planet Forum*** / CIA'S PROJECT MOCKINGBIRD: Mainstream Media / War and Tyranny Propaganda / Re: Al Jazeera English - controlled opposition all the way on: 13 December 2009, 15:51
Ah, Wayne Madsen... Yes, he's a well-known investigative journalist. That denounces a lot of stuff the US government doesn't want us to know about, but that sometimes, apparently because of some of his sources, is not very accurate. For example, he claims that this new virus is "vaccine-proof". Which shows that he doesn't know yet that all viruses are such, since vaccines themselves are already known by many to be a medical fraud.

Seems like he doesn't frequent this board after all... Smiley

(Don't get me wrong. He's surely a great investigator. It's very easy to find mistakes in other people's works, but it's usually a lot harder to do better ones.)
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119  ***THE MAIN BOARDS - Welcome to the Prison Planet Forum*** / CIA'S PROJECT MOCKINGBIRD: Mainstream Media / War and Tyranny Propaganda / Re: Al Jazeera English - controlled opposition all the way on: 13 December 2009, 14:50
Phasma:

I realize now that you misunderstood me. (Indeed, I was finding it very strange for you to make such a claim about an Al Jazeera guest.)

I wrote:

Even if the people at Al Jazeera were not aware of what's going on in the West and had never heard of Alex Jones (and others), which I don't believe, they surely watch Russia Today and other channels similar to their own, and by now know who he is. But they don't interview him also, do they?

I used the term "they" twice to refer to the people at Al Jazeera, not Russia Today.

Thanks for the link anyway. Seems very interesting. I'm going to watch it.
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120  ***THE MAIN BOARDS - Welcome to the Prison Planet Forum*** / CIA'S PROJECT MOCKINGBIRD: Mainstream Media / War and Tyranny Propaganda / Re: Al Jazeera English - controlled opposition all the way on: 13 December 2009, 14:45
Here's the PBS talking about it, 20 years ago: http://www.peace.ca/moyersvideo.htm
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