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on: 05 January 2010, 17:20
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(It's a long shot, but worth a try, I guess...) I'm
asking this because I'm trying to find someone that might have read a
book, that is only written in this language, that possibly talks about
a NWO operation or conspiracy. The book I'm talking about is one
called "Enigma Broz - Ko Ste Vi Druze Predsednice?" ("The Broz Question
- Who Are You Mr. President?") and was written by a Dr. Matunovic - one
of Marshal Tito's former medical doctors. It talks about the mysterious
origin of the former Yugoslav dictator. Here's one reference to it: http://openlibrary.org/b/OL472957M/Enigma_BrozI
remember someone from Macedonia telling me some years ago that this
book was written because the doctor in question was intrigued by his
patient's personal history. According to what this person told
me, this particular doctor was intrigued by questions such as how did
someone with a supposedly poor background could play (well?) the piano
and speak 7(?) languages, how come no one in his supposed place of
birth recognized him, and other things about Tito that didn't add up. From
what I remember that was told to me, some of what the doctor argued as
explanation was that Tito was a friend of Churchill and a Freemason and
that the real Tito had died in the First World War(?) and that the one
we know as such was a Pole aristocrat that stole his identity with the
object of making "a Socialist experiment called Yugoslavia"... And I
have the impression that there was also something about Tito's accent... I
don't know what in the book is fact and what is speculation, but
knowing how the story that was described to me fits well into what I
know about the whole NWO conspiracy, I have been ever since most
curious to know more about it. So I was looking for someone who
could tell me more about the book or maybe provide me links to pages
written in English (or in some Latin language) with more information
about it.
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Globalization and the plan for NWO / EU/Unfair Trade/Globalization / Re: the "Black Nobility" origin of Bilderberg
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on: 05 January 2010, 17:13
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You're welcome. Estulin had a blog for some time, were he regularly published information, also in english - www.danielestulin.com. But now he only occasionally publishes stuff on the www.bilderbergbook.com site. I wouldn't consider him a genius. But definitely a great investigator. And
concerning the Black Nobility organized crime syndicate, as I already
suspected[1] for some time, Estulin has more recently said that it goes
even further back in time, and that this generational conspiracy is
around 800 years old. And like what he says in the final quote, that
I've posted, might indicate, he has also recently said that this people
are not just trillionaires, their accumulated wealth for all this
centuries of exploiting and ripping off people is measured in the
incredible amount of hundreds of quadrillions of dollars... --- 1. http://www.schillerinstitute.org/fid_91-96/954_Gallagher_Venice_rig.html
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Globalization and the plan for NWO / FAKE WARS:Terror/Drugs/Education/Pandemic/Peak Oil Lies / Re: The recurring myth of Peak Oil (a Must Read)
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on: 02 January 2010, 16:19
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I
know that several people who partially understand the speculative and
fraudulent way our economy works, including Alex Jones and Michael C.
Ruppert, have been warning for years that a crash, or bubble burst, was
coming, with Ruppert and another saying that what was coming would
"make 1929 look like a picnic". Yet even if that is partially
the cause of what is happening now, it's irrelevant, believe it or not,
when we look at the big picture, and does not account for the whole Big
Crash, caused by diminishing oil reserves, that is starting to manifest
itself and that, believe me, will be clearly visible in the following
years. Whatever economic system people are living in, every
country in the World is now experiencing only the start of what will be
a Huge Economic Collapse. You don't have to be a specialist to
know that, once the energy base that has made economic growth possible
until recently starts to disappear, the whole economy itself will
inevitably collapse. And given the fact that it has grown quite
considerably, we can easily deduce that the crash itself will also not
be one of small proportions. Millions of people are dying of
starvation because a good part of the fields that were until recently
used to grow food are now being used to grow biofuels as a way to
compensate for the lack of oil. (Another clear sign that the gap
between supply and demand is growing already.) As for Peak Oil
being the main reason for 9/11, I think there are other ways of
providing excuses to take away people's rights, other than a false flag
attack blamed on some people in Central Asia preventing the
construction of a natural gas pipeline... (Look at Oklahoma City, etc.)
So I guess it's debatable. I would be most happy if there was a
viable solution, in terms of substitutes, to our most severe energy and
food problem, but from what I know, there isn't any. If there is, is
pretty well hidden, since I don't see anything coming out of countries
such as Russia and others that are not controlled by the NWO. You can read all about the viability of alternative energy sources in Richard Heinberg's great book "The Party's Over". Please do inform yourselves about this. As I said... It's going to be a hell of an earthquake and you have to prepare yourselves in any way you can. http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/
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Globalization and the plan for NWO / FAKE WARS:Terror/Drugs/Education/Pandemic/Peak Oil Lies / Re: The recurring myth of Peak Oil (a Must Read)
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on: 30 December 2009, 11:50
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Peak
Oil is the reason why the economy is collapsing, the reason why China
has been experiencing blackouts and brownouts since 2004, the reason
why millions of people are dying already of starvation in Third World
countries, the main reason why 9/11 happened at this time in History
and the reason why the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq might have
been the beginning of a Third World War... So I strongly disagree with
it being a "non-issue"...
The NWO elites are trying to prevent people's access to cheap forms of energy, yes. With their main target being nuclear energy.
As
several investigators have pointed, their plan is to make everyone
dependent on them and to deindustrialize the world in order to destroy
the middle-class and depopulate the Earth.
But, unfortunately,
we live in a world of finite resources. And the reason why you cannot
keep on pumping oil out of the ground at ever increasing rates is the
same reason why you cannot endlessly mine coal, uranium or any other
resource that is also bound to peak in this century.
Concerning
the fact if Peak Oil is a myth or not, I think that the statements I
called the attention for, make no need for further proof...
And
I agree that, whatever the case, we definitely need to take back
control of society from the psychopathic elites that dictate our lives
and are driving everyone off a cliff, so that we can better manage
whatever problems our society is destined to encounter and freely
continue researching possible alternative energy sources.
I just
posted this facts here to warn all you good people that come here about
the most severe and worrying implications this phenomenon of
diminishing oil reserves has, for you to prepare yourselves in any way
you can.
The transition back to a less industrialized society is
bound to be traumatic and you have to, at least, mentally prepare
yourselves for that, and not be taken by surprise, like all the people
who didn't see this economic collapse coming, and are paying hard for
it, have been.
This is the major flaw I see in the so-called
Patriot Movement there in the US, that I think Alex Jones and the
people posting in this forum are a representation of. You are not aware
of this and you should definitely try to inform yourselves better about
it.
Research about this on your own, read and listen to Richard Heinberg and Michael C. Ruppert, and make your own judgement...
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***THE MAIN BOARDS - Welcome to the Prison Planet Forum*** / MI6 Mumbai False Flag / 'Mumbai gunman' retracts confession
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on: 18 December 2009, 17:13
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http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2009/12/20091218144156681317.htmlFriday, December 18, 2009 19:06 Mecca time, 16:06 GMT 'Mumbai gunman' retracts confessionA
man accused of taking part in a deadly siege in the Indian city of
Mumbai in 2008 has retracted his confession, claiming that police
tortured him into admitting his role in the attacks. Mohammed
Ajmal Kasab, 22, told the judge in a special court on Friday that he
came to Mumbai as a tourist and was arrested 20 days before the siege
began. "I was not present at VT [Victoria Terminus, the former
name of Mumbai's main railway station]. I do not know what has
happened," Kasab said. "Witnesses have come and recognised me
because my face looks similar to the terrorists ... that is why I was
picked up. I have been framed", he said. The Pakistani national
denies being the man photographed with an assault rifle in pictures
taken at Mumbai's main train station, one of several sites targeted by
the gunmen. Kasab faces a string of charges in connection with
the attacks by 10 heavily armed gunmen on multiple targets in India's
financial capital, including "waging war" on the country, murder and
attempted murder. A verdict is expected early next year. Kasab could be executed if found guilty. At
least 166 people died in the attacks, in which 10 men armed with rifles
stormed two luxury hotels, a Jewish centre and the train station. Nine
of the gunmen were killed. 'Clinching evidence'Speaking
outside court, prosecution lawyer Ujjwal Nikam dismissed Kasab's claims
as his latest "U-turn" and said it would not affect the trial because
there was "strong and clinching evidence" against him. The
prosecution has presented security camera footage and press photographs
that they say show Kasab and an accomplice, Abu Ismail, at the station
with powerful AK-47 assault rifles. DNA and fingerprint evidence matching Kasab has also been produced. But
Kasab told the court: "If you see, all witness accounts are similar.
They talk about a tall guy and a short guy. This shows that the police
have told these people to identify me as a terrorist. "I have learnt from the police that the short guy is dead. His name is Abu Ali." Abu Ali was one of the four gunmen killed during the 60-hour siege at the luxury Taj Mahal Palace and Tower hotel. Kasab
said he had initially travelled by train to Mumbai - home of the
Bollywood film industry -"to see cinema" and was picked up by police on
a beach in the northern suburbs 20 days before the attacks. The
22-year old said he was initially brought into police custody after
wandering around the city late at night, looking for a place to stay.
His Pakistani citizenship aroused suspicion, he said. Kasab
also claims that police took him from his cell on the day the attacks
started because he resembled one of the gunmen, and then shot him to
make it look as if he had been involved in the attacks and re-arrested
him. *** http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8419996.stm11:23 GMT, Friday, 18 December 2009 Mumbai accused says he was framedThe
man alleged to be the sole surviving gunman in last year's Mumbai
attacks, Mohammad Qasab, has retracted a confession that he took part.Giving
evidence in his defence, Mr Qasab, a Pakistani national, said he had
been forced by police to confess after being repeatedly beaten up. He said he was not the man seen in pictures wielding an assault rifle during the attacks. Mr Qasab faces 86 charges, including waging war on India and murder. The November 2008 attacks left 174 people dead, including nine gunmen, and strained ties between India and Pakistan. The
BBC's Prachi Pinglay said Mr Qasab looked calm in court as he
repeatedly denied having anything to do with the attacks, insisting he
had been framed by the police. A special court in Mumbai (Bombay) is prosecuting him and a verdict in the case is expected early next year. 'Completely wrong'Giving
evidence in court, Mr Qasab said that all previous confessions he had
given in relation to the attacks were false and made under duress. He
said that an identity parade in which he took part had been
"manipulated" by police. He said that he had never been to any
of the locations where the attacks took place and prior to his
appearance in court had never even seen an AK-47 assault rifle. He said that numerous eyewitness accounts of his role in the attacks were "completely wrong". Mr
Qasab said that Mumbai police had arrested him 20 days before the
attacks on a beach in the state of Maharashtra and later went on to
frame him. He said he was in custody when the attacks took place. He
told the court that the man widely photographed as the sole surviving
gunman in the attacks "was not me, but someone who resembles me". In
what our correspondent says was an apparent sign of his lack of belief
that he will receive a fair trial, Mr Qasab urged the judge in the case
to send him to jail as soon as possible. On Wednesday the prosecution concluded its case in the trial. In
all, 610 witnesses have testified since the case began in March. Our
correspondent says that Mr Qasab's latest comments mean that the main
defence argument is one of identity. Mr Qasab originally denied
the charges against him but in July, in a dramatic outburst in court,
he admitted his role and asked to be hanged. His plea was not accepted
and the trial continued. Following the attacks, India suspended peace talks with Pakistan. After
initial denials, Pakistan acknowledged that Mr Qasab was one of its
citizens and that the attacks had been partially planned on its
territory. Last month, a court in Pakistan charged seven people
in connection with the attacks, including the suspected mastermind
Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi, who is the alleged head of the banned militant
group Lashkar-e-Taiba.
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Globalization and the plan for NWO / FAKE WARS:Terror/Drugs/Education/Pandemic/Peak Oil Lies / Re: The recurring myth of Peak Oil (a Must Read)
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on: 15 December 2009, 11:19
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Our
rulers are even trying to hide this fact, in order for the economy not
to collapse in an uncontrolled way. They will only discreetly admit it,
in order to avoid talking about the severe economic repercussions it's
having already: "At Rottach-Egern, in May 2005,
industry's top executives tried to figure out how to keep the truth
about diminishing oil reserves from reaching the public. Public
knowledge of the diminishing reserves directly translates into lower
share prices, which could destroy financial markets, leading to a
collapse of the world economy." (...) "European and American
Bilderbergers realising the most urgent of needs to expand into
developing markets in order to help sustain the illusion of endless
growth"
--- http://www.infowars.com/articles/nwo/bilderberg_world_in_palm_of_hands.htmI
see it here in Portugal, with an eternal promise to build a new
airport, for example. A project that the government is always saying
that is going to go forward with, and that has been talked about for
years now in the media, but that is never actually started. I remember
a reporter once asking the local Bilderberg-attendee corrupt
Prime-Minister what sense did it make to build a new airport if oil
reserves are diminishing and his only answer was "Ah... well, but
people will continue to need to travel..." and immediately changed the
subject.
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Globalization and the plan for NWO / FAKE WARS:Terror/Drugs/Education/Pandemic/Peak Oil Lies / Re: The recurring myth of Peak Oil (a Must Read)
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on: 14 December 2009, 12:00
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[Even if the NWO elites are suppressing some
of their production to have some reserves left after the crash, all the
evidence points to this being a real phenomenon that is happening
world-wide. And this is the main reason why you should worry about it:] [Dale Allen Pfeiffer:] "Go
to the refrigerator (powered and produced via hydrocarbons) and take
out any food item. Every single calorie of food requires ten calories
of hydrocarbons. This is the blessing of modern hydrocarbon based
agriculture with its natural gas based fertilizers and oil based
pesticides. The human population on this planet currently exceeds 6
billion. Without hydrocarbon based agriculture, it is estimated that
this planet could only sustain 2.5 billion people."http://globalresearch.ca/articles/PFE307A.html*** (7m20s) [Michael C. Ruppert:] "...all
pesticides are petroleum-based, all commercial pesticides... and all
commercial fertilizers are derived from ammonia, which is made from
natural gas, oil's twin sister... and it is oil and gas that allow one
acre of land that would normally produce 30 bushels of corn to produce
135 bushels of corn... that's what's feeding the world today."http://www.radio4all.net/proginfo.php?id=5573*** (31m11s) [Prof. Heinberg:] "...this
is probably the biggest problem that we face as a species right now. We
have created a form of food production - industrial agriculture - that
is dependent on fossil fuel inputs at every stage of the process. From
transportation of seeds and distribution of seeds and now, and
horrifically, more and more genetically-engineered seeds, to the inputs
of chemical fertilizers (ammonia fertilizers) almost all made from
natural gas currently, through the Haber/Bosch synthesis process, to
chemical insecticides and herbicides, again, almost all made from
petroleum by-products, to harvesting and transportation of food. The
typical American meal this days has... the food has travelled 1300
miles before it gets to our plates. At each stage of that... of that
process we are dependent, and increasingly dependent, on fossil fuels.
The problem with this globalization of the food supply is not just
dependency, but also the fact that, as we have created this current
food system, we have cannibalized and destroyed the previous
locally-based non-chemically dependent food system, so it's not as
tough we can just fall back on the small farmers, you know, living
locally, who can supply all of our food needs, all of those local
farmers are gone. Back at the turn of the century, 70% of the American
population was still rural. There were still millions and millions of
farmers. These days, well... I think in the year 2000 census, there
wasn't even a category, there wasn't even a box you could check of for
full-time farmer, because there were so few of them left in... in the
U.S. The only way that kind of food system works, where the entire
population is dependent on just a very very few people, is if those few
people are using giant machines and burning tones of fossil fuel in
order to produce and transport food. When those fossil fuels go away,
we'll have to find another way to feed ourselves. Ultimately we are all
going to be eating organic food, the question is "How we're... how
we're going to get there?" and, once again, some planning, some
foresight and some strategizing could... could make the transition much
much easier than will be the case otherwise."(...) (34m20s) [Prof. Heinberg:] "...looking
at the situation globally it's unlikely that we can make a transition
to organic and ecological agriculture over the short term that would
not entail a serious disruption of the human food supply. We're having
trouble right know growing enough food for all the people in the world.
We have had, historically, food surpluses... those have contributed in
fact to population growth, but World Food Program, for example, issued
a report on October 28th, just a couple of days ago, which said that
although emergency food aid almost tripled over the 1990s it was not
enough to meet growing needs. Population is still increasing. This
year, the World Food Program had to suspend help to 3 million women,
children and elderly people in North Korea because it had run out of
resources. The spokesman said that the global emergency relief system
is overwhelmed."[Kéllia Ramares:] "Excuse me, but isn't that because the governments are not giving enough money to this programs?"[Prof. Heinberg:] "There's
that problem, but also global food production increases have stalled
and we are actually seeing a reduction in... in the amount of grain
being growned and harvested each year. This is unprecedented. We
haven't seen this before. We're... we are actually getting to the
limits of the amount of food that can be produced by our industrial
agricultural system. And the transition back to a locally-based organic
food production system is bound to be traumatic. So, of course, this
then shifts the topic over to... to population."
(...) (36m08s) [Kéllia Ramares:] "There are populations in places where the land is not arable..."[Prof. Heinberg:] "That's
right. That's right. And we may, in fact, have already overshot the
earth's ultimate carrying capacity for human beings and the carrying
capacity for earth, absent fossil fuels, may be well... perhaps
somewhere in the region of 2 billion humans, according to some
estimates. At least that's what the population was a century ago,
before we became dependent on fossil fuels for agriculture. So, the...
the difference between the 6.2 billion we have now and the 2 billion
that may be the sustainable long term carrying capacity for humans, is
the number that we need to, probably, reduce our population by, over
the next century. Theoretically that can be done if each couple were
limited to... to one child, over the next century. But then, of course,
we have a terrific political problem of finding a way to humanly reduce
population..."(...) (38m53s) [Prof. Heinberg:] "...because,
otherwise, unfortunately, I'm afraid that population control will...
will happen through the ?thrive? and true means of famine, pestilence
and war, which is not the outcome that any of us would want to see." http://www.radio4all.net/proginfo.php?id=6048*** http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/100303_eating_oil.htmlhttp://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/111703_korea_cuba_1.htmlhttp://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/120103_korea_2.html
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Globalization and the plan for NWO / FAKE WARS:Terror/Drugs/Education/Pandemic/Peak Oil Lies / Re: The recurring myth of Peak Oil (a Must Read)
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"Ali
Samsam Bakhtiari, Ph.D., of the National Iranian Oil Company, was
firmly in the Peak Oil camp and he presented startling figures on oil
depletion in Iran"
--- http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/053103_aspo.html"'We're
at the doorway of major energy crisis worldwide', Chavez said. 'We'll
have to develop other resources such as wind, solar and nuclear energy
- naturally for peaceful purposes'. He said Venezuela was in talks with
Argentina and Brazil regarding nuclear power. 'Prices will continue to
rise but oil is running out'"
--- http://www.energiekrise.de/e/aspo_news/aspo/newsletter059.pdf"One
oil industry insider at the meeting remarked that growth is not
possible without energy and that, according to all indicators, the
world's energy supply is coming to an end much faster than the world
leaders have anticipated. According to sources, Bilderbergers estimate
the extractable world's oil supply to be at a maximum of 35 years under
current economic development and population. However, one of the
representatives of an oil cartel remarked that we must factor into the
equation, both the population explosion and economic growth and demand
for oil in China and India. Under the revised conditions, there is
apparently only enough oil to last for 20 years."--- http://www.infowars.com/articles/nwo/bilderberg_world_in_palm_of_hands.htmhttp://www.archive.org/details/estulinpart2http://www.archive.org/details/estulinpart3"with
the stakes being the end of the world's oil reserves, the U.S. foreign
policy will be to engage in militarism on the scale of the Roman
Empire, while putting down dissent at home. That much we are already
seeing."--- Dr. John Coleman, "We Fight For Oil" "independent
and retired geologists have been talking about this problem for years;
the companies have generally been discouraging the discussion in every
way possible. I know because when I lecture about the subject, the
people I find myself debating are usually industry PR reps (including,
just recently, one from Shell), while the folks who offer the most
informed encouragement are nearly always retired or independent
geoscientists."--- http://richardheinberg.live.postcarbon.org/museletter/171
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